All New Model 21 Rifles by Nosler In addition to the heavy-for-caliber Nosler ABLR, Browning introduced a new 175-grain .270 bullet in its Long Range Pro line. Having similar stocks on your rifles, helps to make me proficient moving from one rifle to the other in this environment. First, lets understand that theres no objective definition of overbore. Its a relative issue used by gunsmiths when customers are asking how long will my barrel last?. So overkill for most things youd want to use a .270 for, and a bit small (in terms of projectile mass and diameter) for most things youd want to use a big honkin magnum for. Comb height also proved to be a comfortable fit with the lower mounting of the relatively small Nightforce scope I used when shooting the rifle. heavier than the Long-Range Carbon, it is also $385 less expensive. JavaScript is disabled. As I say, Ill have to sit down with the prints and look at them. You are using an out of date browser. Not far from you, live near Beulaville. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. Thoroughbred .270-Caliber: Nosler Model 48 Long-Range Carbon Rifle Other than the heavy mirage in the scope, and a slight correction for the left-to-right crosswind, the 440-yard shot couldnt have been more straightforward. Contact Nosler, Inc.; Tel. No probs as of yet cases have 2-3 firings on them. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Advertised weights are 6 lbs. The Howa 1500 is a nice action, and their products quality is more than I would expect for the price point. My only criticism of the stock is the large size and shape of its grip. You can get some benefit of the extra capacity without turning it in to a barrel burner. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler has an additional 800ft/lbs. Unfortunately, the .270s relatively slow 1:10 rifling twist, as specd in SAAMIs reg book, wont stabilize the stretched-out, heavy, streamlined bullets that offer extremely high ballistic coefficients. This allows an increase in powder charge weight for higher velocity at no increase in chamber pressure. The G1 BC for that bullet is 0.662. A Pachmayr Decelerator pad does a good job of soaking up recoil. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. For you youngsters out there, the .404 Jeffery is over 100 years old, and was used to hunt everything in Africa, from lions to elephants. I know I cant. Likewise, Im unimpressed with the new mid-30 caliber elk rifle offerings, when the 9.362 has been around for more than 110 years, and the .35 Whelen almost 100 years now. Wish I were younger27 Nosler with 180 grain Woodleigh weldcorethat would be my elk load. Just a year later, Browning and Winchester Ammunition collaborated and have just introduced what may be the most practical modern .270 cartridge yet. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. How the Brand-New 27 Nosler Revives the .277, We used the new cartridge on a big-game hunt last fall. Besides loving big bore rifles, I like barrel burners too. Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. The .270 Wby. A 27 Nosler is shorter from the base to the shoulder than a 26 or 28 Nosler. The Berger 170-gr. 28 nosler build questions | Sniper's Hide Forum I dont have much interest in these necked-down super magnum rifles. Every Nosler Rifle is chambered in popular hunting cartridges, including proprietary Nosler-developed rounds like the 22 Nosler, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, 30 Nosler and 33 Nosler. All share the same 35-degree shoulder angle. That works fine on the standard array of .277-inch bullets, most of which fall between 100 and 150 grains. for the Mountain Carbon and 7 lbs. Review: Nosler M48 Mountain Carbon - An Official Journal Of The NRA Theres already a cartridge that would do all this: the 7mm Dakota. As the name states, the 27 Nosler uses .277" bullets like the legendary .270 Winchester as well as the newer 270 Winchester Short Magnum (270 WSM) and .270 Weatherby (270 Wby) cartridges. AccuBond and 165-gr. And, last, the 1-8 twist rate in the .27 Nosler will stabilize longer and heavier bullets, making it a very viable elk and moose cartridge. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They have quite the stock of seasoned walnut gunstock blanks there are Dakota you can even choose what you want if you wish, last time I was over there. The 27 Nosler, introduced in 2020, is the fifth cartridge developed by the family-operated company on the modified .404 Jeffery case. This lets you track an animal left or right without needing to twist your body or move the sticks. I have been running a 27 nosler for a few years,26/28 dies wont work.RCBS makes 27 nosler dies that are readily available. Elite Hunter took top accuracy honors by consistently shooting inside an inch at 100 yds. For decades, the .270 bullet space has been underloved by premium bullet makers most bullets for the .270 were hunting bullets, with a few varmint bullets for blowing up coyotes. For this reason, reamers that cut a standard-length throat have been used when building custom rifles around the various Weatherby cartridges. The single stage TriggerTech Field model trigger features a top safety and user adjustable pull weight of 2.5-5 pounds. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. I began preparing handloads by first running virgin 27 Nosler cases through an RCBS full-length resizing die and then used a Lyman E-ZEE Prime tool to seat Federal GM215M primers. ARMSCORs RIA 5.0 ST semi-automatic 9 mm Luger pistol represents the companys first handgun to be designed and manufactured here in the United States. I see this 27 Nosler round being a boutique cartridge for long-range target shooting enthusiasts, and maybe (heavy emphasis on maybe) a long-range sniper cartridge for the U.S. military. Nosler's new Model 21 rifle provides a rare combination of reliability, precision, and portability not often found in hunting rifles. That wouldnt be all that difficult. The Hide Armory. A big chunk of what youre buying in Dakotas classic rifles is a really nice stick of walnut. Ok, that's good to know. | in the hands of Americas hunters. Long range rifle build. Mag., 30 Nosler and 33 Nosler. The 27 Nosler has the potential to be a real winner, so if enough riflemen ask for it, Nosler could very possibly change that policy. Due the slight weight difference between the two, along with the stiffness of the PROOF Research barrel, once the rifle was sighted in the thread protector and the brake could be interchanged with no effect on zero. Among my handloads, Reloder 25 and the Swift 130-gr. Averages for 150-grain bullets were 2,926 fps and 3,085 fps respectively for a difference of 159 fps. Others opined that its high velocity would be too destructive on steaks and chops. With a case capacity/bore area over 1400, I think the Nosler custom magnum cartridges from .30 on down to .26 have the potential to burn up throats pretty quickly. This article originally appeared in Vol. Id have to look at some chamber prints to see if a 7mm Rem Mag chamber could be reamed out a tad for 7mm Dakota. Heres how it performed, By DESCRIPTION 27 Nosler Unprimed Rifle Brass Box of 50 by PETERSON CARTRIDGE COMPANY Product Overview: Peterson Cartridge Company is a family-owned, American manufacturer of match-grade, brass rifle casings and loaded ammunition that is among the most precise and consistent on the market, delivering discerning long-distance shooters sub-MOA accuracy. Prior to working with the Model 48 Long-Range Carbon, I wondered if an interior magazine length of 3.425" would rule out the use of some extremely long, high-ballistic-coefficient bullets available from other companies. You dont have to max it out. I have 2 Magnus stocks which I like a lot, and I like to keep my stocks similar. can push a similar-weight bullet. Its 26-inch Shilen barrel measured 1.15 inches at the receiver, and from there it tapered to a muzzle diameter of 0.635 inch. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Im not sure I see the point here. And while Berger considers 1:8" to be optimal for the 170-gr. 6.5 mm PRC, .280 Ack. JavaScript is disabled. You can read more great articles by John McAdams on the Big Game Hunting Blog. to 3300 fps requires a pretty big boom. Your rifle will still shoot any and all standard .270 Win. The .38 Smith & Wesson Special, designed in 1898, rocked the handgun realm with its ballistic performance making it a cartridge for the history books. Each cartridge in the Nosler lineup is named in accordance with the first two digits of the bullet diameter it uses: .224" for the 22 Nosler, .264" for the 26 Nosler, .284" for the 28 Nosler, .308" for the 30 Nosler, and .338" for the 33 Nosler. It is a pretty impressive feat to push 150 gr that fast in a slicker bullet profile than .30 cal. DG, I wont go through all the math, Ill just give the number I have in my notes: About 1208. While the two loads offered by Nosler are capable of covering a lot of hunting territory, I wanted to see how bullets of other weights would perform in the Long-Range Carbon with its 1:8.5" twist. Better bullets, powders, optics, cartridge-case designs, and manufacturing techniques, coupled with sophisticated yet affordable ballistics software, have revolutionized marksmanship for everyday shooters and hunters. when both were loaded to the same chamber pressure. ..also gonna run the 170 EOL'sand maybe the 140 BD'2's. ??? Nosler Introduces the New 27 Nosler Cartridge - Wide Open Spaces Follow him on Facebook&YouTubeand subscribe to his show: the Big Game Hunting Podcast. and .375 Holland & Holland Magnum, but it took very little reading between the lines to see that the .270 was his favorite. A friend of mine bought a Model Seven in 6.8 SPC as a first centerfire rifle for his young daughter, and he considers Hornady Custom with the 120-grain SST and Federal Fusion with the 115-grain Fusion to be the deadliest medicines available for use on deer and feral hogs. If I use the Rem 700 action as planned I will install a Wyatt's mbe-3. The bolt would close and lock up on a case, but the fit was a bit too snug. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So when we look across the spectrum of cartridges, it isnt just the diameter of the bullet (or bore) were talking about, it is also the amount of powder were trying to burn and then shove down the bore. Mag. Getting bored with my 6.5 and 7mm's and up for something new. The flat-bottom fore-end snuggles nicely into a sandbag, and yet measuring 1.88" wide at its midpoint, it is narrow enough for a comfortable fit with the hand. .Conceived as a 21st century upgrade to existing 270 calibers. Ten pulls on a Lyman digital gauge averaged 3 lbs., 3 ozs., with a variation of only 3 ozs. 27 Nosler Build 165 NLR accubond 3200 fps - YouTube First, the Weatherby Vanguard is a Howa 1500 barreled action in a Weatherby stock. https://www.classicfirearms.com/winchester-ammo-usa3501-350legend-145-fmj/?trk_msg=KM46TDUBC934TBJRD6HE6L1RK8&trk_contact=HV2LE0TME28289VEE1IUNCQIEG&trk_sid=0AUFDEEA49UBNM3L4PM3VR3TFO&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=https://www.classicfirearms.com/winchester-ammo-usa3501-350legend-145-fmj/&utm_campaign=20200119350Legend&utm_content=Secondary. I dont think I will ever buy another proprietary cartridge again. Haha, this velocity comparison is a joke. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Designed from the beginning to use the new .277 caliber 165gr AccuBond Long Range (.620 BC), 27 Nosler rifles used a faster 1:8.5 rifling twist rate and took the performance of the .277 caliber to the next level by allowing for the use of extremely high BC bullets in a .277 caliber cartridge. This cartridge, loaded to potential, is well into overbore status . Since day one, the 4140 steel bolt was investment cast by an outside contractor then machined to final dimensions at the Nosler plant. Besides, why not just go with .300 Win. Note that while Nosler's proprietary cartridges (to include the 27 Nosler), and the rifles they're available in, are capable of excellent accuracy at long range in the right hands, they're designed primarily for big game hunting, not for competition shooting. Another yawn fest from Nosler. The difference in bullet drop is less than four inches. (possibly NX8 4-32) Hoping for thoughts and ideas Jun 16, 2021 #2 N NK Hunter Member Joined Jun 16, 2021 Going to .30 cal. Partition in my tests, and there is more than enough room in the magazine for it. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Whether you decide to breathe new life into an old .270 Winchester by giving it a new fast-twist barrel, opt for the efficient, impressive 6.8 Western short-action magnum, or jump in with both feet and get the daddy dragon of them allthe 27 Nosleryoull be better served by the .270 than ever before. HSM, Federal, Nosler, and Weatherby offer .270 Wby. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. The BC, interestingly, is .617. My rifle had no problems shooting sub-MOA groups. If needed, 27 Nosler brass can be formed from 30 Nosler brass. Uniformly round holes in paper targets indicated stability with all bullets tested. In 1970, Jack OConnor, who was a major force behind the .270s ascendance, said that by his estimation, more custom sporting rifles had been chambered in that cartridge than in any other in the postwar years. AccuBond with a 0.591 BC. The loads for 140- and 150-grain bullets in my chart were furnished by Nosler and did not exceed 61,750 psi in Noslers 26-inch pressure barrel. Live Chat Live Chat. The 27 Nosler case has 42% more case capacity than the 270 Winchester, 25% more than the 270 WSM and 12.5% more than the 270 Weatherby. The .308 is fairly easy on barrels, like the .223 Remington. Due to an extremely high expansion ratio, the little cartridge does not gain a lot of velocity as barrel length is increased beyond 18.5 inches. Years of development and pushing the limits of what is possible in a rifle optic have led up to this moment. A 1:10" rifling twist rate has long been standard for the .270 Win. Could be wrong. By the company's numbers, it will kick a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond bullet out the muzzle at around 3,300 fpswhich is screaming, nearly 150 fps faster than the very potent Weatherby. 47 / 0.03941 = 1192+. Other likely candidates for this cartridge include IMR 8133, Reloder 33, Reloder 25, and Reloder 26. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. According to my internal "kickometer," recoil with the brake is about the same as for an 8-lb. With a little dish soap, we can get the water to form a flat surface across the neck opening. KC. Looks good. Minuteman. When firing a 150 grain AccuBond Long Range bullet from a rifle with a 26" barrel, the 27 Nosler has an approximately 400 fps advantage over the .270 Winchester, about a 300 fps advantage over the 270 WSM, and about a 100-150 fps velocity advantage over the .270 Weatherby. Nosler M48 Long-Range Carbon Sniper Grey Bolt Action Rifle - 28 Nosler - 3+1 Rounds. 125, No. Dividing this by 0.06026 gives a bit more than 1128. Boattailed and polymer-tipped, lead-cored but non-bonded, its a very accurate bullet and is an excellent heavyweight projectile. The 26 Nosler introduced in 2013 was followed by the 28 Nosler in 2015, the 30 Nosler in 2016, and the 33 Nosler in 2017. This results in best-possible ballistic performance with minimal powder usage, maximum consistency in velocity, and impressive performance at a modest price in recoil. Ive shot antelope to elk with it and 300+ lb. Combined, the higher velocity and higher BC offer a significant edge. 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Published Feb 21, 2020 11:00 AM EST, We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. The Nosler Rifle Division spent the last few years watching the ?Ultra-Lightweight? I really respect your insight and the knowledge you bring to so many subjects here on TTAG. Within a few years, bullets ranging from 90 grains to 160 grains (a flatbase, roundnose version that would stabilize in 1:10-twist rifling) were available for the .270, offering broad-spectrum versatility.The practical range is about 450 yards, although top riflemen occasionally reach out as far as 500 or 600 yards with the classic .270 Winchester.Check out the comparison chart showcasing the performance of the 6.8 Western against the classic .270 Winchester and the 27 Nosler. Nosler Introduces the All-New 27 Nosler Cartridge If 270 Winchester was bordering on over bore status, pushing more hot gas down the barrel is going to erode the chamber throat even quicker. NEXT: 8 MILITARY SURPLUS GUNS EVERY SHOOTER SHOULD OWN. Then 2007 happened. I would hold my breath on the Nosler, for now anyway. Not as bad of a transition as I thought. One more cartridge that has a rep as a barrel burner: the 6.5-284. Make sure to watch till the end. The case has been shortened significantly to allow adequate head height for extremely long, aerodynamic bullets. Mike Schoby takes his nephew, Mitchell, on his first-ever whitetail hunt in Nebraska. A custom built one (twist, bullet selection, etc.) Soon after Mike Lake of Nosler had completed the designs and specifications for a family of cartridges on the .404 Jeffery case, they were all registered with SAAMI. Sign up for daily stories delivered to your inbox. Any idea on barrel life? However, when loaded with a 165-grain ABLR, the good old .270 Winchester holds its own much better. with proper scope to take advantage of range would have capabilities at 1,200 yards on elk and such game. It might take a custom-made reamer with a long pilot. RCBS reloading dies are also currently available for the cartridge. I had some calipers that would stick drove me crazy. Light, Fast & Deadly BC Outdoors Magazine 27 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; 28 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; 30 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; 33 Nosler Rifle Cartridge; Team Nosler. To provide a benchmark of popular modern and classic competing rounds, Ive added the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 7mm Rem. But that sweet spot right in the middle is part of the reason the .270 Win. Rifle Builder - RW Hart and Son When loaded with IMR 4350, the slowest-burning powder available at the time, the .270 Wby. For handloading, Nosler also has a Long Range version of the 150-gr. A faster-than-standard 1-8.5" twist barrel design allows the 27 Nosler to propel Nosler's factory-loaded 150gr AccuBond and 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets (new for 2020) at never-before-seen velocities and distances in 270 caliber. MTH carved its smallest groups with 0.035" of jump, and that put cartridge length for it at 3.402". Roy Weatherby introduced his first big-game cartridge, the .270 Weatherby Magnum, in 1943 and began offering handloaded ammunition in 1945. Single-loading was equally smooth. All numbers are crunched at standardized, sea-level atmospheric conditions. Nov 8, 2006. will likely forever remain unanswered. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. My favorite .270 rifles today are a Model 70 Featherweight built by Winchester in 1959 and a Remington Model 700 American Wilderness Rifle with a 24-inch barrel. (Mmmm, speedgoat is tasty.). On my digital postal scale, the Long-Range Carbon in 27 Nosler weighed 6 lbs., 15 ozs., and thats close enough. Subscriber Services. The Sako-style extractor plucked fired cases from a dirty chamber without missing a beat, and the spring-loaded plunger ejector propelled spent cases through the port smoothly and with great authority. The biggest challenge would be making sure the pilot for the reamer is engaged in the bore before it starts cutting the read end of the chamber. Enough of this funereal diatribe, however. Lets explore some comparisons, crunching numbers against traditional .270 Winchester loads, and then adding 7mm Rem. Expanding bullets of monolithic construction often shoot more accurately when seated for plenty of jump, and that makes those from Barnes, Hornady, Nosler, and others logical options for rifles with freebored chambers. If anything, the grand old cartridge will receive much needed attention in comparisons such as I have made in this report. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Extremely important on a big-game rifle, all cartridges fed smoothly from the magazine. Nosler releases the all-ne-aaaaaaand, its already faded into obscurity. Nosler has just announced another addition to its family of eponymous cartridges, the 27 Nosler. Many hunters of my age find it difficult to think of a cartridge loaded with a .277" bullet without the name Jack OConnor coming to mind. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The .270 was introduced in the Winchester Model 54, but it was not an instant success. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. I was especially interested in the 27 Nosler, and while there are no immediate plans to offer unprimed cases, ammunition, or rifles chambered for it, my friends at Nosler kindly agreed to build a Model 48 Liberty in 27 Nosler for this report. Mag. Subscriber Services. Eventually, that zesty factory velocity underwent a practical adjustment to 3,060 fps, and 150-grain bullets at about 2,900 were added for use on bigger game such as elk. So thats a long way of saying probably not, but it might be possible that it would not cost as much as a Dakota-made or full-custom rifle. Your mileage will vary, according to how you treat your bore, how hot you let the barrel get, how hot you load your ammo, etc, etc. With the same bullet seated in the .270 Wby. AccuBond bullet is good news because, at the conservative distances that I and most other hunters take big game, it retains a higher percentage of its original weight than the two Long Range versions. in favor of the 27 Nosler? Enable Accessibility. Special order / hard to get parts for a rifle, thats just not my style. Trophy Grade ammunition is loaded by Nosler with 150-gr. Until now. among American manufacturers, but to assure complete stabilization of the new lengthy bullets, twist rate for the 27 Nosler is 1:8.5". Nosler will be offering their complete line of M48 rifles in the 27 Nosler chambering. The 1:12 rifling twist of early .270 Wby. But NATO standardization took precedent. A few months prior to the official introduction of the .270 WSM in 2002, I used a Browning A-Bolt chambered for it to take a very large nilgai bull on the King Ranch in Texas. Ill hang on to my Vanguard and keep on shooting. Case capacity is about 47 grains of water, more or less depending on case manufacture. Im not sure the taper on the cartridge would allow this, but it might. Fully prepped and ready to load, Nosler's gone ahead and done the meticulous case prep work for you. Considering its big appetite for powder, velocity spread with the 27 Nosler was quite low. I have one, and Im quite impressed with what I got for the money. Thats with a 210 yard zero. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. Nosler Pro Staff; Sponsored Shooters; Project 48; . At 500 yds. And then theres the 27 Nosler. Think of it as a 270wsm with about 20gr more boiler room. For this reason, the Nosler Model 21 rifle has a crisp, user defined feel. You can see these barreled actions for sale at Brownells. Cases sized in that manner allowed the bolt to close and lock up with only light resistance. Some figured the .270 was too small for use on anything but deer. Residual energy at 200 yards was about the same as for the .30-30 Winchester at 100 yards, and because the .30-30 in the hands of native Alaskans has taken thousands of caribou through the years, I figured the 6.8 was plenty for shots no farther away than 200 long paces. This doesnt do anything a dozen other chamberings cant do. It's no question that our line of award-winning production rifles raise the bar for what is considered "standard" in a factory produced rifle and it all starts with . Depends on how you load it. For everything else walking the North American continent on hooves, the .270 will do anything any ethical hunter needs to get done.